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Nice. Few thousand dollars worth of equipment and guy can shoot an animal that's laying down a half mile away.
There's a difference between hunting and target practice. Jerkoff.
Yeah yeah , let go the slings and arrows.

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HaHa! Outstanding! Can't wait to try that line out on my 7 year old daughter next time she skins her knee. Thanks man!:bear_thumb: You rock!

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Some points and opinions are worth intelligent debating, others warrant responses that match the merit of the argument. My response matched the merit and maturity of your argument.

Besides, you're in the Firearms subforum.. Honestly, what kind of response did you expect with that trollish PETA post?

You're just attempting to stir shit.

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Aawwwwh now. You want I should see if there's room in the waaaahmbulance for ya?:wink: Just kidding.
I love hunting. I love target practice.
I understand the difference.
Not all do.
I am curious though. Would it have mattered to you had the animal been asleep, instead of just lying down?
Just my POV. Good luck man.

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I know where you are coming from. This is one reason I've traded in my Tikka .30-06 w/Nikon Monarch 4-12x40 for an SKS with iron sights for deer hunting this year. There is a difference between shooting an animal and hunting an animal. A good hunter shouldn't need to shoot more than 100 yards. I know, I know... antelope hunting is different. They are all over the place out here, and I'll admit I've never hunted one.

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I'm an avid hunter. And competition marksman. I can see both sides of this activity.

I don't have a problem with that type of hunting if that is what you want to do...but that is not for me. It really is not hunting in my opinion....drive up in your GM Suburban....set up your sniper post....lazer range find the animal to 1011 yards.....bust out the $2500 rifle with ballistic drop compensation scope and custom loads.....and take a target type shot ......that is not hunting in my world.

BTW - fantastic shot and skill....I've shot 1000 yrd rifle before and it is difficult.....and a bit of luck to have a clean kill at that range...it can just as easily not turn out so nice.....not a clean kill.

To some extent, I can see the challenge...last year I shot a deer at 120yrds with a 12 ga slug gun (not a sabot load)....and was hoping for more like a 175 or 200 yrd slug kill.....it has 27" drop at 175 yrds when zero at 100 yrds.

I'm a bow hunter....that is true hunting. I also hunt deer with rifle, shotgun and handgun....that is also hunting but not like bow....it is more like harvesting....a function of seat time mostly. Handgun makes it interesting and limits your shot distance.

In the end these beasts are managed by data driven conservation departments.....they need to be killed to be managed.

Again impressive shot....but just not my style....but still like to see folks hunting.

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Lets see.

The animal was laying down. As compared to what? Dancing a jig?

In every case that I'VE SEEN, you don't shoot at moving animals, because the chances are you will either miss or only wound the animal. Which means it will 'bleed out' over several minutes to several hours. And you end up having to track it down for a second shot or just to retrieve the kill.

That the buck was not standing upright means little.

Other than that, this was a CLEAN KILL, as in LIGHTS OUT with one shot.

That's actually impressive. I personally doubt most if any here could do it. I can't.

But then, I don't hunt. No, I'm not opposed to hunting. I just hate getting up WAY TOO EARLY IN THE MORNING for all you hunting folks. It's the same reason why I don't fish. I mean really, what, the fish WON'T be hungry later in the day? Your antelope won't still be there at noon or two o'clock in the afternoon?

Over in GERMANY they hunt feral pigs at night. In places like cemetarys. And you are REQUIRED to have a suppressed rifle. Don't want to 'wake the dead neighbors' when hunting in a cemetary.

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I have always wanted to hunt deer with a spear, but it is illegal here in my home state of Michigan; but this crap isn't? How many did they miss or wound before they got the "perfect" kill on vidio???

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I think you can hunt Pike and Muskie through the ice with a spear still.

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These guys are obviously professionals, but I'd like to see them hunt the animal properly, get in as close as is reasonable, and take it down with a clean kill shot. It's in the true spirit of hunting, stalking your prey, and in doing so even giving it a chance of possible escape, and not wasting anything of what you hunt.

It increases the likelihood of a clean kill on the beast, a long range shot could simply wound it, as there are too many factors involved, like wind etc.

They could shoot iron targets for practice at 1000 yards and achieve the same thing with less chance of simply wounding the animal. A followup shot is often going to be extremely hard, to finish it off at that range if the animal is still running about.

I think we do have a responsibility to an animal that we hunt, to not cause it undue harm and dispatch it humanely.

This video turned out well for them, my worry is about the weekend warrior copy-cats that will get out there with a high-powered rifle and start wounding animals at long range.

Just my opinion on the matter.

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If I'm hunting to feed my family, I'll take any shot offered. If I'm doing it for sport .... (still eating every edible scrap) a muzzy head on a 70lbs bow is as technological as it needs to get. I figure that any animal's got a 50-50 shot of making me before I can make any shot. Sport hunting beyond the range of the animal's defenses for me isn't sport, it's target.

I hope they used the animal well, and not just as a trophy.

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...having the capability equipment and skill to do this could be very important in both food collection and home defense in shtf

...a 1000yd cold barrel one kill shot is in no way a easy thing...some people cant make a 100yd kill shot

...sometimes antelope hunting in areas with no cover it can be close to impossible to get closer than 500yds as antelope are like hunting white tail deer with turkey eyesite

...for the pure pleasure and skill of hunting Bow is the way to go...

...the only way you would take a antelope in open terrain with a bow or under 100yds would probably be a Bait and Blind...

...personally i dont find this type of hunting enjoyable...i do have the equipment to Harvest animals at long range and do occasionally on the farm as a control means but it is a Harvest/Nussance control issue not hunting in my opinion...

i think as long as it is legal they can hunt however but i wouldnt see any thrill from what i call Harvesting ...would be like shooting my cows from a 1000yds stead of rounding them up and doing a close up kill...not much thrill..hunting to me is about the thrill with trophys for memories and proof...

Just my opinions of course

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I've done a fair amount of practice and competition at up to 1000 and do have the gear. I wouldn't take the shot because the probability of wounding is just too high, especially first shot. I notice that the shot was taken with zero wind, that doesn't happen often. Just a 5 mph wind at that distance would give over 4 feet of drift.

Also the shooter was probably shooting a heavy 30 cal + round. All my long distance stuff is 6mm and 6.5mm so it wouldn't have that heavy a punch at 1000. My 6.5 shoots a 140 gr bullet and is moving only around 1100-1200 fps at 1000 yards.

I'd take the shot with confidence at 600.

600 firing line below, the black circles behind the numbers are 4 feet in diameter, you're aiming at a 6 inch circle in the middle.

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This. I don't care who you are, you cannot hit 1000 yard shots like 200-300 yard shots. IMHO, hunting public game at these ranges should be illegal. If you want to prove what a great shot you are, do what I do and shoot at 4x8 sheets of plywood.

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Folks born and raised in the American West cut thier teeth shooting accurately at ranges that would make an eastern hunter wet thier pants.
Hunting my oak scrub in Michigan flips out a front range hunter just as bad as his endless prarie does me.
If a hunter from Colorado, or Montana, Wyoming, Dakota's etc tells you you are a pretty good shot and your home is east of the Mississippi, you just got one hell of a compliment!
Great Shot!

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Shoulden't you be off somewhere puffing on a bong with Michelle and peeking around the curtains?

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Really who is anyone to decide what is sporting and fair. Each type of hunter claims it is "true" hunting. Is a rifle sporting? How about a shotgun? Pistol? Muzzle-loader? Crossbow? Compound bow? Recurve? Spear, or how about jumping out of a tree on to a deers back with a knife? Is that sporting enough for you? In Texas we shoot deer over feeders, is this sporting to you? To me it's not a "sport", it's a way of life that provides food for my family. You know what you can do with your arbitrary definition of sport and hunting!

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I'm not a bowhunter (yet) but there are bowhunters who hide at waterholes and wait for antelope.

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If you can take down the animal in a consistent humane shot, it doesn't matter how you hunt.